It's an interesting perspective Dan. I read an startling listserv e-mail the other day about college students at Amherst requesting Rails. Amazing, not so much to think that they would want it but that they would be requesting it as part of their student web services. TextDrive has it covered, in fact it's one of their big draw cards. I've heard similar (good) things about Segment in Australia. WebObjects I don't know much about. One question though, do you see PHP and AJAX coming together in particular ways, or am I misreading your comment about that?